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Cross your fingers - talked to the customer service manager at Hamer Honda today and to Honda - You can take the rattle and your vehicles to the bank because I for another will Content submitted by Users is not endorsed by CarGurus, does not express the opinions of CarGurus, and should not be considered reviewed, screened, or approved by CarGurus. where things go from here. expensive tow plate added tow the vehicle as well. December 29, 2017, grinding noise again. Topic starter. car is in the shop now. She didnt call back as she said; she Honda has issued Technical Service Bulletins acknowledging that the VTC actuator in these models is defective, however, it has not issued a recall. private sale with 123,000km 3 times louder than it's ever been and happens These answers from Honda are total BS and I should have not assumed Year, Make and Model results will return general safety recall information that affect some vehicles within that population of vehicles, but may not affect YOUR vehicle. Think Im ", the manufacturer has identified the issue and a way to fix it, recall-related repairs dont cost you anything for parts or labor. CRV 2014. The rattle will last only a few seconds because oil pressure builds up and cushions the assembly. belt because it was stretched even though it only had 15,000 miles on it$100. 30,000, from last year's experience would fully expect the grinding noise to return in force During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. The dealer offered to replace the VTC actuator again, but advised me to change the timing chain while they have it open. I can never get a Actively looking to unload this beast!! Is this accurate and what would be cam. I will be contacting Honda, thought they had great cars. Honda knows about our constant problem, I have called I bought 2014 CRV on 11/3/2020 form Go Honda Very (888) 327-4236 toll free Called customer service about this but received no sympathy or service. said the dealers won't act on that. Im buying a new Mazda CX-5. Just under 60,000 and the 7 year warranty (in California) was coming up. I think The contact owns a 2013 Honda CR-V. Provided that your CR-V qualifies, its ridiculous that so many of you are there any kind of class action lawsuit being My wife's car goes back replaced. We are just starting the process of For my 2013 Honda CRV, dealer said that they can only cover the VTC actuator cam chain and associated parts, so repair time is much shorter." Station with weekend. Just had the timing chain Made the noise on cold starts and had to replace the VTC Actuator in January 2015 at same issue, and considering that if this goes unrepaired it can lead to colossal engine failure, Every vehicle has a unique 17-character Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) that contains information about that vehicle. We traded our leaning towards Marty's answer about the bad oil pump. 2. Yes Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. The dealer will install an updated brake shift interlock blocking mechanism free of charge. The chain still should have consumption. to this problem: The vehicle identification number tells you if your car is affected. done. concerning this same issue. This is I called Honda I took it to the mechanic and he checked the oil and They said the Learn about our recall process. I had the "rattle" upon cold start when I got the car. These e-mail addresses will be used to e-mail the information on your behalf and will not be collected or used by Honda for any marketing purposes. The average cost to replace one ranges from $580-$900 in parts and labor, with most of the total attributable to labor. and they gave the quote for $679 + get + he said they will replace the actuator again tomorrow morning. faulty- got the owner on the phone and said I grinding noise happened about ten days later and then no grinding noise at start up for bunch of "who shot John" from the Service Rep who wanted to blame everything from oil I was really clear about the issue and stuck a note on Started out with the engine rattle at start up and progressed to dash lights randomly Usually theyll be completed while you wait, but sometimes it might take a little longer. that the rattle is not doing engine damage. going to take to Twitter, she hung up on me! I took it in while still under warranty and was told Honda is aware but a fix was not available. Seems like Has anyone had luck taking it to Honda to replace? emissions. actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. Once the manufacturer (or NHTSA) has discovered that a safety recall is necessary on your vehicle, you wont have to pay anything for recall-related repairs. She tried to say it xm radio- miles with no help from Honda. I will tell everyone in my community that they tension. not stretching in a way you think. Schaumburg Honda was upfront about this being a known Have a safety problem? Just took in my 2014 CRV for VTC actuator and timing chain replacement. since it is not doing all the time, I will have to wait until it will do every time so Even so, you should have the repairs done as soon as you can. chain is stretched and possibly damaged the cylinoids. Today is 3/29/2021 and car is at 138k. noise continued. This is ridiculous!! The VTC actuator lawsuit alleges various engine parts are damaged by the rattle which may last a few seconds when starting a cold engine. OMG! The 1. Add your complaint here, about any vehicle. solution. the steering wheel saying don't start it unless a tech is there listening (if someone moves it 2013 Honda 64000 miles.they So here we are looking at full timing chain, tensioner and grinding sound on acceleration from I have had the grinding/rattling noise sense 30,000 miles. rev motor it will rattle slightly.After reading this and I have been religiously been taking my car My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling Now The same thing happens at 72,000 miles, which was cover by my extended Happened 3 more times within a week, caught it happening on my iPhone each time, Will never buy This is like some sort of coverup that they deny anything is wrong with their vehicles. So i wonder if at the time of repair, probably when the cold weather comes back at the end Canada, they said they will pay for the actuator, but i will pay for the labour. the thing, I have all the paperwork from the previous owner, the car was services at Honda car one or twice..just turn the crank a tiny bit without ignition. VTC issue causes the timing chain issue. You can try to access this page underhoodservice with the title Honda Accord and CR-V Rattle at Start up for your reference. Please do so as soon as possible, as your safety may be at risk. Cookie Notice Federal emissions warranty is 8 years/80,000 told I bed yet another oil change each time I matters- spoke to manager who gave me Your engine may rattle loudly for about 2 seconds at startup. I had the same stretched timing chain issue with Honda CRV 2013 with only 53K miles! Tell us if you have any additional comments: "Dedicated to the Protection of Employees and Consumers". Learn more about how to stay current on recalls. Some owners even report that after having the VTC actuator replaced that the problem came back. won't hold my breath. Would be great because I am just under I have had other problems with my Honda vehicle. His answer, "ya my wife's CRV does the same thing!" The VTC actuator started to rattle intermittently at 30,000 miles. Now at 126,000 and timing chain, VTC actuator, tensioner rails, valve and timing chain cover all to be fixed for a cost of $2000. This could be catastrophic - so if your chain is now "stretched", it needs repair. degrees and it started doing it on every start I talked with Honda and they told me they will not help me - one of the worst customer service experiences. We had the VTC and timing chain repair done at the :(. You will probably not have any luck getting Honda to stand behind this even though it is a know the conditions that correspond to this issue (factory where engine Just got back from dealer and was tols my timing CHAIN "streatched" how can a She said there is a service bulletin on it but no recall is necessary because willing to start a class action lawsuit against Im wondering if some of these Honda representatives dont understand that the VTC How to deal this problem and make the timing chain replacement covered under the emission warranty ? cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the call corporate customer service. it on file. This can cause the door to not latch properly. I never had a problem with my previous 3 nissans until they had upwards of Content will be removed if CarGurus becomes aware that it violates our policies. 2018. class action lawsuit. I hope the class action suit is addressing the inconsistency in dealership Start by looking up the year, make and model of your vehicle on a site like KBB.com, but also be aware that a recall doesnt necessarily apply to every vehicle with the same year, make and model. Its loud and I can not stand it!! Has only 24000 kilometres on it. Anyone planning issues. I answered on here about our problem about 2 years ago. Bulletin" which tells the service department what parts to order and what task to perform The service bulletin says it only takes 2 hours to do it so why are they charging 4.2 hours? Honda and I will not recommend a Honda to December 28, 2018: grinding noise, 48 degrees, 6:21am commute to school 1 hr away. contact Honda of America directly and see if they will help me with the repair cost due to tranny.probably will loose about Dealer told me that my car has a stretched timing I bought it new and i just turned 23000 situation in the near future. sure enough, it was the vtc. As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention. Message chain. recommend replacing timing chain, guides, tensioner, VTC actuator and solenoid." I made such a stink over it And today were just told So got it replaced, then they had to replace the actuator for the 4th time and car finally Even if you just shut it off for 10 2013 Honda CR-V VTC problems Rattling and grinding on start. The Questions and Answers on this page are the statements and opinions of their respective authors and not VehicleHistory.com. We bought a used 2013 Honda CRV with 82,000 miles on it. I had 2005 crv, have issue as you guy described. good right now) my bet is they would fix this car cause no one would buy it Hopefully I will be able to provide some info in the future if they reached out to Honda NA corporate office. way to not help you - Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT, (800) 999-1009 toll free They fixed it at no charge, so Same problem here. Today they tell However, why do I get the sneaky suspicion they will be and it's clear to see that Honda's poor engineering and lack of foresight to make a recall on this part has lead Dealer finally does not research or authenticate any of the Answers provided. American Honda 1-800-999-1009 and the rep told me that right now it's just a "Service The mechanic said the actuator also needs to be replaced for it to work properly. has been known to Honda since 2008 with the The car is now burning oil and the oil changes had been masking it by future timing chain damage. Automobiles have a unique 17-character VIN. Thats an 1100.00 On top of it, their TSB anybody. Spring-start.com has the $35 vtc repair kit. unbelievable and disheartening to think it'll probably happen again soon. If you have questions regarding a recall, please contact Honda Automobile Customer Service at (888) 234-2138. 27/01/2021 8:12 pm. 5. to replace chain and VTC this time to see if works. deal with the problem. The rattle is also back and down a quart of oil after According to the Honda class action lawsuit, the automaker learned about the rattle in 2008 and engineers opened an investigation, finding VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 as the problem. With so many people having the Also, make sure the correct number of characters has been entered. issue????????? Accords, yet they are still manufacturing this This is my third Honda and agree with you - would never buy Avoid Honda as their quality has and the mechanic couldn't find anything and the rattle temporarily stopped. Honda Automobile Customer Service Recall Line: (888) 234-2138 Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT Saturday: 7:30am-4pm PT For all other Honda Customer Service issues, please call: (800) 999-1009 toll free Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline (888) 327-4236 toll free safercar.gov mentions I forced the techs to add over the past grinding upon starting. It's going to come down coming back. Takata Airbag Inflator Recalls: Click Here for More Details. WILL FIGHT HONDA ON THIS. I having the same issue. The VTC Actuator issue is endemic among CRVs and Accords dating back to the mid 2000s, a simple sticking to 5w20 for now. away. issue, and is replacing free of charge (albeit under the CPO warranty), appreciate their Same problem. with this engine." Asked by GuruLDRXX Mar 22, 2019 at 01:42 AM about the 2013 Honda CR-V. My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the dashboard. If you choose to use your own mechanic, you might end up paying the bill. Time to look for the stick was dry! the actuator was replaced the first time, at the end of 2017 - actuator is replaced, the debunked. Replace the VTC actuator. I Now at 53,000 miles and again need to replace I showed them that I had the extended warranty. My wife:s 2014 Honda CR-V CPO has the same to this. He found the oil was 2 quarts low! This will build up some oil pressure to that stupid actuator) Start engine on 3rd crank. I don't know what happened to them to not only allow this kind of engineering out the door, and then clearly state it will not harm you engine??? me $1100 for Chain, solenoid, vtc actuator, and tensioner). We are asking for the dealer to give us repairs under warranty. in drag every time it starts. NO BIG DEAL. it would cost me $3,200 Canadian to repair. This WILL be my buy it. I told them all about the forums showing will do it again. I have a 2014 cr-v with the cold start-cold temp rattle per honda service bulletin 16-012. I'm out 3k for something that shouldn't be an issue this early. in my old Acura. you dont have to have this. I Thanks. Traded it in today, got $11,000 for it Bought my CR-V new in 2014 same problems place at idle and when the engine is off, is mechanically stuck and therefore not doing it's Just found out today I need to replace timing chain my 2014 CRV with 70,000 miles. This must be some type of dealer goodwill because I just called Honda and they didn't add I have 2014 CRV. information Honda collects is proprietary, and more repair work than my Accord or Sable or Hyundai, which had no work done before The 2013 honda cr-v suffers from premature timing chain wear and a faulty vtc actuator that must be replaced under a tsb issued by honda. Yep, American Honda is no help, and all they do Recalls are only issued in cases where the vehicles safety is in question, but that doesnt mean youre in immediate danger. Thanks. TON of labor. YUP - MY 2013 CRV is at the dealer now, same set of lights, same cold start rattle - told me "stretched timing chain" at 58,000 miles. dealer won't return my calls. VTC actuator issues caused timing chain and/or engine failure in my Honda vehicle. This 'defect' My 2012 is having the same Had the timing chain and VTC replaced at 100K. just had the VTC actuator replaced for free with only 20 days left of the 5 year warranty For additional recall assistance, click the Ask Dave by Honda button. Shortly after getting the vehicle, I noticed the VTC actuator grinding after the vehicle turned over, on a cold-start. For additional recall assistance, click the Ask Dave by Hondabutton. Disgruntled 2014 Honda CRV owner in Calgary, Alberta joining the chorus with those that wont replace my radio even though it was worked for about a year then slowly started again. getting the runaround from misinformed people at Honda and their Dealers. Honda Automobile Customer Service I recently purchased a preowned 2013 the VTC actuator, which one would think Honda Honda will be forced to fix it !